Once again I am proud of the people of my state.  Roy Moore, the dumbfrack who got himself ousted from the State Supreme Court for putting a giant 10 Commandments monument in the courthouse lobby, has run for Governor a second time.  After losing in the 2006 primaries with only 33% of the vote, Roy gave us a repeat performance last night by again failing to secure the party nomination, this time with a pathetic 19% of the vote.  Three Republican candidates beat him.  The black guy got 25,000 more votes.

In honor of his sinking ship, here are a couple videos from the campaign trail:

(Most awkward smile ever in the next video.)

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24 Responses to “19%”

  1. es Says:

    If the south secedes again, we’re not stopping you this time.

  2. bl1y Says:

    If we leave, these are a few of the things we’re taking with us:

    Space travel, missile defense, the two largest research parks in the country, the most advanced auto plant in the country, Mark Twain, Harper Lee, Anne Rice, Tom Wolfe, William Faulkner, Tennessee Williams, Tennessee Whiskey, Kentucky Bourbon, Barbecue, Disney World, True Blood, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, and soy beans.

    Yeah, we don’t eat soy beans here, but we’re keeping them out of spite.

  3. es Says:

    go right ahead. We’ll keep separation of church and state.

  4. Meno Says:

    It only proves a point when you can list all of the merits of all southern states in single, small blog post response.

  5. bl1y Says:

    I guess your fancy liberal education didn’t bother with reading comprehension.

    a few of the things we’re taking with us”

    Seriously though, ultra liberal schools tend to suck. I had a girlfriend who went through high school without ever having European history. Instead they had African history. She knew about Ras Tafari, but not Market Garden.

  6. ??? Says:

    Space travel? Missile defense? How are you claiming those came out of the south? While a launch pad or the current center of operations may be in the south, the contributions and discoveries required for both of those have been decidedly national. That’s like saying that b/c a mint is in St. Louis that St. Louis invented money.

  7. bl1y Says:

    We don’t just have mission control (Houston) and the launch pad (Cape Canaveral), we also have Marshall Space Flight Center (Huntsville) which does a ton of rocket development, as well as Cummings Research Park and Research Triangle which contribute a boatload of additional research and equipment for space travel.

    And of course, can’t forget Wehrner von Braun.

    Remember, we didn’t put our first astronaut into space on the “Decidedly National Rocket,” we used the Redstone Rocket.

    But hey, I guess space travel can’t compare to the accomplishments of Yankee states. The Addams Family Musical…wow, that just…cultural revolution there.

  8. ??? Says:

    You’re making the same point, which I still don’t think is valid. Mission control, Cape Canaveral etc. are just buildings. You can build an office building anywhere.

    The size of this or that research triangle is a weird and uninsightful comment. That just means that research is clustered. Also there’s JPL, SRI, Lincoln Lab, etc. etc.

    And if you wanna just name people, fine… how about Lyman Spitzer Jr., Charles Draper, John Casani, etc. Contributors to the space program come from all over the country. Also, Wehrner von Braun was a German, not a southerner. He just moved to the south because that’s where the building was.

    And rockets are launched from locations for reasons related to physics. If the south didn’t exist, rockets would have still been launched. See, e.g., Nasa’s decision to launch rockets from Australia.

    This all is just to say that missile defense and the space program are not “southern” and more than they’re “northern” and it’s misleading to say otherwise.

  9. ??? Says:

    And yeah, the south is the cultural epicenter of our nation. Good point re The Addams Family.

  10. bl1y Says:

    “And rockets are launched from locations for reasons related to physics.”

    The South has better physics than the North. I accept your concession.

  11. es Says:

    It’s worth noting that those huge federal job-providers are in states that vehemently detest any federal involvement in their affairs. I believe Rick Perry was entertaining notions of secession to appease his far right wing voting base. Wonder if the United States would allow the Republic of Texas to keep Mission Control?

    Also as an aside, Bobby Jindal, taking a break from performing exorcisms, seems to be on all fours begging for greater federal intervention in the oil spill. I seem to recall a much more “state sovereignty” oriented Bobby Jindal responding to Obama’s faux state of the union address in his first few months in office.

    So other than multi generational wealth built on the backs of slaves and federal job creating mechanisms, and country music, what exactly does the south provide?

  12. bl1y Says:

    Whiskey. ’nuff said.

    Also, I agree about the hypocrisy over limited government. Some of the stuff NASA does is important for national security, and I can get behind it, but I don’t think the federal government should be spending money on a big-ass telescope that just looks out in the universe.

  13. ??? Says:

    So there should be no government grants for any research that’s not related to the military?

  14. bl1y Says:

    Incorrect usage of expressio unius. I believe research related to Congress’s enumerated powers is fine. But, I don’t think studying intergalactic space blobs falls under any of Congress’s powers, though I’m sure they’d argue it’s commerce clause.

  15. ??? Says:

    Discovering habitable planets is not the role of government? That should be left to private enterprise?

  16. bl1y Says:

    Please identify the power of Congress that falls under.

    Also, we’re scarcely able to detect extrasolar planets to begin with, can merely speculate about habitability, and the United States will be long gone before we even have the ability to travel beyond our solar system.

  17. ??? Says:

    For one, the general welfare clause (see Helvering v. Davis). It’s also not a stretch to call it national defense.

    In addition, I’m not sure I trust your science here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/science/hst_img_20080319.html – and is your argument that the government should not engage in certain acts under the assumption that the government will eventually cease to exist? Strange point.

  18. bl1y Says:

    It’s a huge stretch to call it national defense. We’re not using Hubble to search for invading aliens. We’re using it to satisfy our intellectual curiosity.

    And it is definitely my position that the government should not engage in activities which it can only justify by plotting a time line that goes 10,000+ years into the future.

    I think the stuff NASA does is really great, I just don’t think it fits under any power our government has. If there was an amendment to make space exploration an objective of our country, I’d vote for it.

  19. ??? Says:

    I disagree. But why is it not permitted under the general welfare clause? Please answer using a reasoning consistent with supreme court holdings. I think you’ll find it’s very hard.

    What’s the timeline that the government is allowed to plan in advance? Who would have expected the internet / computing would grow so rapidly? Where do I find the limitation on how far in advance the government can plan?

  20. ??? Says:

    Also, this is why it’s not a stretch that Hubble is part of national defense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Superiority_Systems_Wing

  21. jon Says:

    And yet, the Greek god Minerva still has a statue at the courthouse. Where is the separation of church and state there? Or are some religions more equal than others?

    Orwell said this might happen..

  22. bl1y Says:

    I definitely agree that space superiority is important for national defense. However, the Hubble Telescope is not part of that.

    As for an explanation for how it could be beyond Congress’s powers that’s supported by Supreme Court opinion? It’s probably not out there. The court has been extremely liberal with Congressional powers. Aside from Gun Free Zone Act and VOWA, they almost never limit what Congress can make laws about.

    But, your understanding of General Welfare would mean that Congress can take on any role they damn well please. What would not fall under General Welfare? But, that reading of the Constitution conflicts with the existence of Article 2 Section 8 (why list powers if their powers are everything they want?) and the 10th Amendment (for something to be reserved to the states, there has to be something Congress can’t do).

  23. bl1y Says:

    jon: Some religions are definitely more equal than others. The Sith would whoop Christians.

    Also, while Minerva was once a religious figure, she is not any more. Her statue isn’t there as a goddess, but as the personification of certain values. She is now purely a secular icon with religious roots. Now, the same could be said of the 10 Commandments. Like Minerva, it can be just a symbol of certain virtues, and not a religious icon. But, in the Roy Moore context, it’s definitely supposed to be a state endorsement of religion. He admits this.

  24. Marie Says:

    Will you two just go get a motel room? Personally, I havent met someone yet from Alabama who wasn’t a yahoo.

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